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were successful in voluntary benefits have begun. in terms of data analytics overlapping with operations, we've now had over 800 acre boxes with our files of our members taken off-site in a hippa protected manner tested. they are being digitized. so something i've been talking about for four years is actually happening even as we speak and it's going to enhance member services because you will be eight-you won't have to get up and go look for the file and look for the piece of paper in the file. it will be on the members digital file. i'm just kind of-i want to highlight a couple things. i think the other piece is the demographics report,
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which marina, will be presenting a little bit later. then lastly just recognizing the data analytics staff who have undergone that as was described herculean efforts to work through the different data processes that had to occur for the outbound eligibility for the split families and others. you have heard from finance and contracting has moved forward. in terms of wellness, i really urge you to click on the link and look at the well-being reports. a lot of work goes into these reports and 2016 highlights include that we now have over 241 wellness champions throughout the city and other employers and whiskey
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about that is you don't just get appointed to be a champion could this a fair amount of care and feeding of the champions in terms of keeping him train. they come in and get retrained, give them tools, giving him different potential things they can do with the members that they interface with. so maintaining a group of 241 motivated wellness champions is no small feat. we did our first ever as you know, nutrition challenge. that was participated by 6% of the employees and people are still talking about it. we did the first ever physical activity challenge and there were 22% of our employees participated. the flu program gave more shots than we've ever given before the healthy holiday program addressed stress, relaxation and weight management for the first time. there were six and 29 participants in the maintained no gain project and
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interim 24 participants in the 12 days of relaxation as opposed to 12 days of christmas. over 175 activities and seminars were held which was a 52% increase over the prior year. lastly, this speaks to the previous conversation at this board meeting is the diabetes prevention program modeled after the american diabetes association which is a joint research project with kaiser is continuing through 2017. they recruited 156 participants in a peer-reviewed project or peer approved project with human subjects approval they will be looking at what works better. people meeting together are people using an online guidance program. i personally know
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someone who has achieved her goal weight, reduced all harbor numbers is no longer prediabetic and i think it speaks to well for continued activities. this year we are launching a healthy start campaign. again a physical activity challenge which the commissioners are welcome to participate in. as a summer nutrition challenge in the fall flu prevention. we will also be doing relaxation volunteering maintain no gain and a pilot programs for healthy weight series and that diabetes prevention program in the summer of 2017. so wellness is really doing well. well-being is really doing well. i have to get that correct, well-being. in terms of my reports, the periodic utilization review meetings with kaiser which
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chairman scott participated in, and with blue shield were actually going to try and bring to the next meeting and comparison of pharmacy costs between blue shield kaiser and united healthcare in terms of how they've grown over the last five years and in what areas. this will be an area that you will need to continue to watch over the next-at least four years of not beyond. mayor lee held a community meeting with key participants about what the implications of the affordable care act repeal would be. clearly, it will mean a cost shift to employers and since we are the largest employer in san francisco it will mean a cost shift to us. we are working with the san francisco health network. blue shield and united healthcare to include
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zuckerberg san francisco general hospital in our network so employees could go there. as you know it's a world renowned hospital and it's been going on for some time and trying to push it before i leave but it will continue to be something that we will need nurturance. i want to just publicly say that the held positions accountable care organization has produced remarkable results and in every single area. there was one graphic that just showed the line going down. they are a stellar book accountable care organizations which all other accountable care organizations, including the other accountable care organizations that we have with the city. i will-we are putting into place follow planning on the engagement survey that we
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did and as pamela alluded to we're beginning the budget process and have begun meeting with the mayor's budget staff. other items of note. you may recall that there was some question about whether we had overpaid with him when when was our life and disability company and as it turned out we had overpaid them. it was very difficult to itemize it. this different records were kept in different places but with the help of our city attorney, we agreed to a settlement and $575,000 was paid to us. it will go through the controllers office and will be distributed to the different departments that maybe overpayments. it's not like it comes back to us, but it was our diligent efforts to make sure that we got it
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back. for those departments. in terms of a federal update, which i gave you a federal update in january. i will just say that the news today is that secretary price will be confirmed. he, as you know, has vowed to scale back much of the federal government's role in health care because he believes in a free market built on privatization. he wants to reduce spending on medicare and medicaid and he's opposed to price negotiations terms of pharmacy benefits. i anticipate that that vote will occur either today or tomorrow. that's right they don't work on fridays. monday tuesday. they don't work on mondays at either. in terms of pharma as you probably saw in the paper pres. trump promised to address
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for missy costs and he had and then he met with, and said maybe we won't to all the things we talked about during the campaign but he has said and in the cures act that was passed at the end of december, the regulations are being pulled back from the fta and dr.-he and i had a conversation, the whole idea trying new drug and determining whether it's good or not by the reports of adverse reactions i get sent in is the kind of monitoring that is being proposed. i anticipate from a cost will continue to make up the single fastest growing part of our costs. in terms of repeal and replace, they are not talk about the pugh and repair although today the white house press secretary said that
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the repeal would begin with the reconciliation act of 2017 and the 2018 tax reform legislation would finish it off if you will. the other thing that significant thing that happened in terms of san francisco, a place where we were and continue to be a leader is gender treatment and a court ruled that that particular regulation those part of the affordable care act does not need to be implemented. so employers can choose whether or not to provide gender-benefits. i will say united healthcare put out immediately that they would continue to provide their benefits if employers are choosing them. home on that topic, we will have-we are currently comparing the gender
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benefits between blue shield kaiser and united healthcare and we will bring the comparison to next months meeting much the way we did the infertility benefits. in terms of mergers and acquisitions, today the great merger that's been in the works between cigna and anthem fizzled. the court will do against it but what we are going to continue to see our mergers and acquisitions based on capabilities. so we are not going to see big companies that do the same thing birch and acquire each other but we're going to see companies acquire other smaller companies and one of the examples that's been given is uht purchased surgical care affiliates. so it's not you wait see is an insurer and they purchased a smaller company that had a specific capability, or, like care
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provider collaboration like sutter health plus. you have a list of things that we can-that are predicted. the value based reimbursement i think is really important and i'm pleased that it was part of the united healthcare proposal certainly part of the way, blue shield and kaiser do business. there was bipartisan support on that in the congress last year when it was passed through macro. i had a presentation yesterday by the united states department of health and human services cms regional administrator for region nine who went through the medicare.gov star system and talked about what different providers health plans hospitals medical groups and physicians had to do to get those stars and it really-it's
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the voice of the consumer. the consumer has a voice in whether or not quality care is provided. so awfully that will get repealed. i think those are kind of the major issues that i had highlighted. are there any questions? >> questions of director dodd and her report squeak any public comment we? i think you for particularly the federal highlights. it seems to be a changing landscape by the hour and we are still waiting upon the appellate court decision that might be released later today or tomorrow. we are not sure regarding some of the other actions the current administration and their impact. so, with that is there any public comment? >> claire-we are concerned
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about the split families issue. for those transitioning into you wait see and so having families with blue shield and we would like to know a little bit more about what's going on because we are hearing-i know that it has been an initial problem in january but is he getting resolved and is it going to be resolved so those families will be able to utilize those plans? thank you >> yes. i believe it's been resolved. he met daily and weekly in january could generally we met daily.we narrowed down to a specific number of families and reached out to them. >> yes. if you would please identify yourself thank you >> i'm jeanette loan with blue shield of california and as a
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result of the medicare split contracts with the medicare subscriber would orate event would be united healthcare and a non-medicare subscriber defendant would be with blue shield there was a lot of programming that had to be done between the city and blue shield of california for the first few days of january. it was an oversight where the non-medicare subscribers not deposited in the correct divisions therefore they were prescriptions and/or prescription eligibility that i could not be elevate validated that was manually corrected around the fifth or six of the month and then ccsf in the due diligence decided to have us do a full 100% audit of those files which was conducted for the duration of january and that was conclusively at 100%. >> all right. thank you for a much for that update. any other
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questions were public comment on the directors report? hearing none, we will now move to discussion item 13 b item 13 discussion i'm hhs financial reporting as of december 31, 2016. pamela levin. >> director lebanon going to ask you be as brief as you can be. and this will also apply to the next discussion item in this is to be sure we have sufficient time to deliberate in closed session on the member appeal. so take the time you feel is necessary to be clear >> pamela levin chief financial officer. right now the projected fund balance in the trust is by the end of this fiscal year 630 17 that were projecting 54.3 million. that is 7.4 million more than we reported in january that that
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swing is due to a couple of different items. one is that we have in underestimation of the impact of the illumination of the [inaudible] tax in 2017 which significant lowers the blue shield administrative cost of this was factored into the rates when they were established but we were pleasantly surprised to see that it significantly reduces the administrative rates >> so the actual fact that, just to be very clear, is the city as an employer has had its cost lowered as well. is that not true? >> correct. >> to the tune of what? >> $12 million >> $12 million. >> is that right speed mike >> $12 million. to the city and cost avoidance. we've reduced by 12 noon dollars. the
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reason why i'm repeating that is because this is to be material for the very budget that we have passed and the discussions were you will be having as we move forward. these millions of dollars, $150 million commitment memory serves, over the past five years the city and county of san francisco does your in and year out on acknowledged and unheralded unless we bring it up. i intend to do that mightily as we go through the budget process this year. please, director lebanon >> second is there been improvements in the blue shield and self self-insured plan claim experience and we also did a wee projection of the healthcare sustainability fund based on our review of the development the budget that was on the agenda today. we have no additional pharmacy rebates received in december and the year and projections remains
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unchanged. no applications had been received for the surrogates adoption benefits and we are projecting the general fund that we will and on budget before it's expanded >> all right. thank you. any questions from any members of the board regarding the financial report for this month? any public comment? hearing none, and seeing none, no public comments, den director lebanon we would like to thank you for your continued hard work for you and your team day in and day out to achieve these kinds of results. on behalf of the board i thank you. we are ready to go to item 14 >> item 14 discussion item presentation of 2017 demographics reena coleridge.
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spears marina court eight analytics manager health system. thank your president scott and commissions. we have a presentation. that stuff up with the my colleagues [inaudible] and helped pull a lot of the state of the presentation to get this is the annual demographic report that is a snapshot in time of our membership at the beginning of the plan here. so this is data we extracted out of january 1. the format of the report is consistent with what you have seen in previous years in efforts we take a look at our all of our lives in the health service system in romans when we take a look at just a retiree employee numbers and we look at employees and their
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dependents and retirees and their dependents and we do a little deep job but each of the various employer groups. as we look at the report today and go ahead --as we look at the report today the to significant driver of the changes that we are going to see is really as results of the illumination of the blue shield and the care plan and also the funding change with the city planner medicare plan. so we have the migration into the new city plan which also has implications in other areas but we are concerning a trend of increasing rn rolled lives. we now have one heard 17,000 people enrolled which is eight 2088 percent increase over 2016. likewise on the next page, are dental in moment is also increasing we saw 2006 and 75 more people in rolled in dental
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good i like to copy off that every year because i recognized it to do a lot of work but for just people enrolled in benefits but also people who leave benefits also get various outreach touch points from our department, that accounts for another 6000 people. >> dir. dodd >> i just want the commissioners to appreciate that increase of 2088 enrolled people. when you're out and about talking to people because that's like for very large businesses. the we assumed and not increase our staffing. we are serving-when i started it 207,000 members. so we have increased by over 1000 or 2000 every single year without buffering our operations. it's a tribute to all of our staff.
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i just wanted to bring our john >> we commend you could forgive the point is we also know technology has been a support tool 12, keep up with the growth. at the same time our overall administrative costs are substantially lower for plan administration that a lot of our bond vendor partners. the company side of that also. these, continue >> thank you. look at slides for this is new to the demographic report because as you know sin to approved it we did roll out of voluntary benefits to all employees of the city and county of san francisco and also the superior court so this was presented in a previous board meeting but now in our demographic report just showing you over the seven different voluntary benefits and what the enrollment in those berries benefits were all told it was more than 5000 in rolled in those benefits.
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looking-i know we are moving for just a couple highlights as i start around the rest of the reports but to some comments on our enrolled lots on page 5. he continued to see that seven-year trend of kaiser increasing their enrollment portion only a 1% kaiser now has 55% were covered lives. additionally i would like to call out the city plan did gain 490 employee lives. that was the conversation point earlier with commissioner sass when we're talking about the stabilization reserves and is a deeper dive on that on page 22. also i would like to talk about a percent of overpopulation that's in san francisco. some
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of you may have seen a january 21 new york times article was titled, where are all the children going to look nationally and some of the big cities and for example as a percent of population new york had 21% of children under 18 years of age and i think chicago's 23% in san francisco was really on the low end of the spectrum at 13%. when we look at our own lives rashly doing a little better than that i am pleased to say. look at both employee and retiree lives we've got 21% of those that have children living in san francisco. when we just entire when we just look at our employee lives but it's over 31%. so within our own population we are bending the trends of the larger city and county of san francisco. moving on to page seven, of course
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they change you are seeing here in the graphic is the migration over to new city plan as result of the planned changes that were made this a good hourly alluded to the 55% for kaiser which months to 64,000+ lives. i will have 14,672 lives in the new city plan. over 11,000 those were members in the remaining our dependence but the impact of this is that are blue shield-that graphic on the bottom right-blue shield doesn't have that retiree plan anymore so the average age and a plan is significantly lower than what you see in previous years. i would like to-because i'm forever honest about these things-also call out a couple of mistakes. on page 8 the trendline on the top left graphic about retiree lives in medicare and will get an updated one post on the website-but the average age is not 61. we inversely included [inaudible] and we look at this
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from a medically enrolled perspectives of virtually 53.77 is the average age and of course you see impacts on the bottom left there in our average age across plans. that was because we had our membership moving around. then i will just skip ahead to page 11 and a leg know for those that do consume these reports year in and year out that as we were looking at what changes we saw by each band in 2017 we were noticing quite a spike in the 25-34 age group when we research what was going on without we realize that in 2016 there was a transpose arrow in the head data in the wrong columns suite restated 2016 for you as well. you can see that. in our year-over-year were not seen significant change. that's also true in terms of the percentage of our retiree to our employee percentage were our subscribers to our dependence. we stayed pretty flat in terms of our-how we look at those things. slide 15 this is a new addition to the
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demographic report that we know as the go through the many many questions come up in this report is sometimes looked to to try to quickly get some answers and so we do look at where are our employee and early retirees who we tend to have under the same active groups. where are they distributed by plan and by county certainly in previous time periods as we've had to look at various reports looking at displacement. we thought that would be helpful going forward. >> on the [inaudible] what is that sliver? >> you are on page 15 >> yes. what color is that great >> what color is [inaudible] green >> i'm sorry among the wrong-i'm on the wrong page >> a little bit of blue and
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orange. >> that of course because of the that hetch hetchy so we have them enrolled in city plan and make it the edge of cheesesteak and that's what you see there could of course they tend to be number only, two. small number of those have a dependent. i think unless there's any particular questions from the board, i know you need to move on with other agenda topics. i party explained away out of the report in terms of how it sequences through the various groups of employees and retirees and told him on the employee level. i will leave it there and take any questions. >> just a general one. as you look at things over time, other any broad themes or trends that you could talk about regarding health plan coverage from the demographics of our employees?
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30,000- >> well, when i think about our risk scoring and looking at her age gender we are continuing to see these repeats some things are previous year that the average age for invoices dipping. it's very slight but it's dipping as the state continues to more hiring. another-we tend to be pretty consistent with our splits by gender. i will say though, that traditionally it's been court and usc that had a higher percentage of female enrollment in this year ccd shifted up in that a little bit. but, yes,
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-then of course we are seeing some of the differences with overall age but again that was impacted by taking over retirees significant portion of guitarist and lead them over to the new city plan. otherwise, we do remain consistent year in and year out. >> okay. i just make a note for our vendor partners as we start to look at age factors and assumptions if you will around actuarial outcomes and impact on premiums and so forth. just a passing comment. thank you. any other questions from members of the board on the demographic report? this is one that i would hope that gets [inaudible] but the one that will be coming back to us as we start to look at rates and other issues. county comparisons and on and on sort like a baseline report for this year and again thank you and your colleagues for all of your hard work on this. i know it takes a lot to put it together. any comments from the commissioners? any public comment on the report?
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>> claire-i think this one of the most fantastic items that gets produced every year and arena does a phenomenal job. i think it's very telling about who we are serving and where in i noticed that this year-and i am assuming it's going to be early retirees that we have plaster county in yellow included because there's more outreach and i look at that for a minute i was stunned when i saw early retirees as part of that category. i'm assuming that our reach with eu hc plan and members really not having to live within certain service areas that we are now acknowledging a lease in northern california that we have members in other counties that we have not traditionally had them or least not covered by -not covered by us as much.
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they were plan one i don't know where they were. it's interesting to see these new counties being added that members are being served farther out in the think we have to bear that in mind because i think these are trends . this more telecommunication both with changes how we work as a city and county but where retirees cut. so i just want to acknowledge the staff work on this and think them very much. to me this is one of our bibles i think it's just fantastic and should give us a lot of information that will help us understand, benefits and where we go from here. thank you so much. >> thank you for your comments. any other public comment? hearing none, we will now move to discussion item 15 >> item 15 discussion item report on their work and health plan issues if any.
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>> good afternoon could michelle-united healthcare is wanting this opportunity to let new member from our team introduce herself for the board. she joined our team in support of ccsf probably about two months ago. i would give it >> she knows everything. >> yes. >> okay. very good welcome >> thank you my name is christina lord and the field account manager for the city and county of san francisco the commercial active and early retiree plan. so i'll be supporting the members of the plan and hsa and wellness and open enrollment and benefits support all that good stuff. >> all right. well thank you very much for taking the time to be here today. welcome. >> account manager for medicare retirees of united healthcare.
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i have two items today. the first one is i had to take away from the january meeting to confirm when members see a specialist when a self referred to see a specialist who is responsible to get those medical records over to their primary care physician and i believe that mitchell didn't report out at a retired firefighters meeting but i also want to bring it back here to the member does have to requested that of the specialist so they can get those records over to the primary care physician. >> is there any work plan going forward? is this where you are going to stick or are you thinking through other alternatives or options to that? >> we don't have a medical record account management system or a coordinated one because as a national window be very difficult to do. >> all right. director dodd >> our best doctors would put
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your medical records on a thumb drive. if you just wanted your most recent x-rays and lab work and positions notes they would get him on a thumb drive to you and you could take them to your specialist. so we have a workaround for that. >> okay. any other-other comments? >> so i one more item to bring to the board today. united healthcare retirees solutions is conducting some voice of the member focus sessions over the next couple of months and we have received approval from hss to include the city and county medicare retirees and those focus groups. the purpose of those are to gather feedback directly from the retirees have attended one of the retiree educational meetings in the fall to get their feedback on how those meetings went, what
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worked well, some of the charities for improvement so that we can improve those meetings for future. there will be two meetings and based on where the biggest attendance was, we are targeting probably san francisco for both of those meetings. the 90 min. in length . we will be reaching out to six retirees randomly for each of those sessions and then it will be a third party that actually conducting a meeting with those retirees and they will bring feedback back to us and i can share that with the board on how those once. there's also an opportunity to have some questions that hss would like to have them there if that something that would be of interest. so you could get the retiree feedback on those questions as well. >> i hope you're going to feed those that come to the meeting? >> yes. >> food, not snacks. a new. a healthy meal. commissioner
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breslin >> i some questions but my hearing is impaired so i don't want to have to wonder what the end was left ask it about this but it's really important that you do more outreach to doctors and members that were in the city plan and blue shield plan because-that seems to be the complaint. they go and say, no, we don't won't take you and then there's more confusion because it's called the new city plan because some of the doctors think it's the same plan. it is not those of the whole thing is-it's been a very confusing. but next time around-but it seems like at cmpc homage outreach has been to all those doctors there to get them into your network? with people go and they say, welfare not in our where work so we have-we won't take use they have to go to all the process. >> right. we need to do the
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our reach again if you're not in our network it is up to the doctor whether or not they want to bill united healthcare and continue- >> but if our reach wants to can you they want to keep coming to your network? >> we sent him a packet of information >> how many doctors have by cmpc >> how we are reached to? i don't have a number of the top of my head >> there's a lot of them, right? >> yes. >> over there on webster street >> i would encourage retirees if they have those issues to get in contact with united healthcare. they can call the number >> but there in the office may find out then and they need to see the doctor. these people are not young people. >> we are continuing our outreach efforts as we become aware of member potential member disruption. we are outreaching to those providers.
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>> i thought you presented with that discrepancy was that you had surveyed providers to see how many are already in the network and you were doing active outreach to those. i don't remember the exact numbers. maybe you could remind us what they were but i thought they were at least in terms of the primary care was a fairly small number. >> about was the blue shield disruption and was a very small number. >> right. i guess i'm not sure whether >>[inaudible/off mic] >> i don't know it seems like cmpc a lot of them are not. >> center doctors are in our network and i know sutter is affiliated with cmpc so there should not be disruption if there are sutter dr. i think what we are seeing the issues
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would've [inaudible] and were having to outreach to them. >> so they can be both the networks? [inaudible] >> all right. any other questions or comments? >>: is the medical group. uh c is the insurer. so the positions in brown and toland can be individually in uht network. >> all right. they can participate in both networks. is what you are saying >> they can participate and they don't have to be a part of our network in order to accept the plan but sometimes we do need to outreach educate them on how to build united healthcare and have to accept the plan >> okay. that's so not to process >> is ongoing. outgoing with calpers and ongoing as we bring on additional >> all right., thank you. other
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planned representatives issues? of the comments in this area? >> addenda screwed up active with our voters widows and their dependents. as your starting the rates and benefits when the things that i go up every year and talk about is the two-tier vision plan. somewhere in the back of my head >> it used to be [inaudible] the dental >> no. the two-tiered vision plan i love it two-tiered ( >> it used to be that that the plan reference. okay. we fixed that one so please, proceed >> well, you have not fixed it. you've done the best you could to read the was the kind of exit >> as far as the two-tiered vision plan summer in the back my head under what somewhat out there floating around and i hope this year will be considered again. the wonderful benefits for people who wear
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glasses. if it's possible to fit into this year's rates and benefits i'm sure a number of members would appreciate so thank you >> all right. we will make due note of that. dir. dodd >> it will be part of the presentation. >> it will be part of the presentation geared all right. stay tuned. future events. all right. any other public comment? item 16 >> item 16 discussion item opportunity to place items on future addenda. >> any of the comments? item 17 >> item 17 discussion item opportunity for the public comment on any matters within the board's jurisdiction. >> does anyone have anything to say that might be within their jurisdiction of this board? catherine, may i ask do you introduce the new member of
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your team? >> thank you. >> i looked over >> i apologize i should've during my report a new medication management pamela, would you come-pamela johnson, we have a-to the microphone pamela johnson's come to us from mpa. before that she had her own pr firm. she is a fiction writer and has lots of ideas to bring us into the social media space and make information much more available to our members. do you want to say anything? >> also i worked at public works as a public information officer in the fs mta. i'm looking forward to my new role as medications manager with hss and have lots of ideas so we should see some really exciting stuff from the team. glad to be
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here >> on behalf of this board we welcome you to this staff and we look for to working with you during the course of this year. >> thank you >> thank you again for choosing to spend this portion of your career with us. >> thank you >> thank you. any other thing that might be part of the jurisdiction of the board, public, dramatically i don't see any. we are now moved to action item 18 >> item 18 action item vote on whether to hold closed session for member appeals follow-up president scott >> i'm willing to entertain a motion that we hold a closed session for member appeals. >> so moved. >> second. spews is been properly moved and second on whether to go into closed session. is there any question by the board? any public comment? hearing none, and seeing none, we are not ready to vote. all those in favor say, aye. [chorus of ayes.] opposed, say nay. the with if
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we not disclose. the celebrations are closed session and with that we stand adjourned. >>[gavel] >>[adjournment] >> >> >> everyone thank you for coming out on a beautiful sunny summer afternoon although i guess the first day of winter i'm ed reiskin and this huge interest in low income intersections in san francisco
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so great to so, so see many of you here to celebrate a accomplishment for making streets of san francisco safer as people know hopefully most people know city leaders in the mayor and board of supervisors and the commissions as well as stakeholders decided 3 years ago no longer tolerant and accept that people will die as they try to get around san francisco so we adapted vision zero back in 2014 to eliminate traffic fatality by 2024 a number of ways we are work toward to goals and with an is redesign the streets to make them safer for all road users we're doing that in all vision zero using date to drive us to where we can make
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the most impacts and when it comes to the streets we know from research by the department of health that a small amount of our streets 12 percent of our corridors and intersection are responsible for more than 70 percent i have our facility collisions where we are standing lights up on the map of san francisco the unfortunate location for people are gotten seriously hurt or killed trying to get around san francisco police department that's why that is the treatment the first of its kind protected intersections we wouldn't be here without the leadership of mayor ed lee the support of board of supervisors, i want to acknowledge jane kim it's r he's been a strong supporter of the streets a great work by the department of public works to help design and implement just
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kind of work and strong advocacy from folks like the san francisco bicycle coalition to pursue us that's why ear here wouldn't have been possible without the the leadership of city hall is please help me welcome mayor ed lee. >> (clapping.) >> thank you ed reiskin and thank you to the mta for working closely with many agencies to put the city's very first protected intersection together and to see how this role can help safety been the premium policy for the streets so thank you to the bicycle coalition, public works and walk sf and livable city working with our city agrees as well right here in a z inspector duffy, see
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the craft above you on the streets everyone using walking and bicyclists in particular intersection we have now to the data we have done prior to this change documented over 2 hundred people ride there to intersection to get to work that's as a an invaluable piece of data at the looked at the accident data the fatality date to inform us this was an important intersection to make that change so hopefully everyone driving a vehicle will appreciate pleasant users for this inspector, next item. >> people using different modes of transportation from walking and biking that's why that intersection was designed in. >> way in which of the turns
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or more safer and slowed down and that the need to have much more alert of everybody users the intersection will be appreciated by that design i want to congratulate everyone for doing this because that will be a good test how integrated most transportation will work in a urban city like san francisco i appreciate the design here i want to allow it to really flower to if we have data that informs us on challenging intersection we'll do those kind of safer ways to get everyone to appreciate the multiple you used going on i see tom livable city is here an advocate along with the coalition i'm here to more than obvious to support in effort in getting to vision zero and make sure that every project
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we identify regardless of whether we put a ballot measure if pass we're trying to make that happen no matter what we're committed to making vision zero and reality in the next few years and need to work with everybody thank you for cooperating and make sure we're always doing the right thing and add my thanks to supervisor kim not here but a strong advocate for this to happen thanks. >> (clapping.) >> thank you, mr. mayor the mayor mentioned the design of this intersection is being unique and design as the mayor said to slow down people and improve the visibility no matter how you're coming out or the mode you can see each other and reduces the conflict this unique design was the first for us in
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san francisco it is relatively new in the united states though it's a been designed used elsewhere in the world a lot close work between our agency and public works we the mta staff do the preliminary kind of the comprehensible and engagement them with the engineers over at the public works that is new to the design and public works contractors come in and do the physical work and the sfmta folks come in and that but in the stripping and the so forth a collaborative effort and mayor ed lee directed all city agencies to work together in a coordinated way to get the improvements done i want acknowledge of the sfmta our livable city section is here and mike one of the explosive wife
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designers and crews coordinating with public works and the sign shops to get those projects a lot of folks work together and the public works grateful to have a strong partnership want to welcome our public works director mohammed nuru. >> (clapping.) >> thank you e line e ed and thank you, mayor ed lee since 2011 when we passed the road bond we really had quite a few a number of opportunities role to improve how people move around san francisco and seen more people bicycling and walking around the city our agency has been working closely with the bicycle coalition and sf works really to make it easily for people to get around the city as you heard from the mayor and ed this is a critical spot that is an intersection where people connect to various
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neighborhood and market to downtown or up to the castro or towards the financial district our designers work and this is the first protected zone that we are rolling out there will be several and as you can see light areas for people that can feel safe when we cross the street and making that easier for people that are using this and so we've very, very happy to be part of the design you know it is what san francisco needs at that time more people are walking bicycling and our agency will continue to make our city safe we are a big supporter of vision zero policy and we'll continue to doing everything we can to make our city wonderful and more enjoyable for everyone temperatures. >> thank you, mohammed and the
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contractors to make that possible and all the leadership and is coordination from within city hall the real benefit of what is different vision zero is a community partnership with the city it is not just the city but our community groups it is the coalition of dozens of groups close recognizey and neighborhoods and business groups coming together to support vision zero and one of the lead voices particularly when it comes to bike safety it the san francisco bicycle coalition at the they've been relentless for safety and pushing us to do more faster and better and that's pressure that stays on us everyday helps us to get this done we appreciate the leadership and the pressure from the bicycle coalition and we're glad to be joined by executive director bryan. >> thanks ed. >> thank you ed reiskin and mohammed nuru and thank you,
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mayor ed lee for your living room in adopting the safety improvements that will make our streets safer and help us to chief /* achieve it. >> this will help to reduce the casinos of night vision and hopefully that will be embarrassed in other corridors across the city i want to applaud the staff of the sfmta so for grace's new ideas and xernts and looking forward to hearing from people that walk and bike and drive and seeing that feedback incorporated to the design i know many of the members of the bicycle coalition have excited about the redesign
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and it is working beautifully and the cars are making the right turns that slowing down behind you he before the redesign of this intersection cars with speed there and try to get across the bike lanes so we need more complete streets projects to protect and design and build xroiz for the health and safety of everyone that walks and drives with geneva and so the streets approaching the redesign protection should be considered along 80s coordinate in order to help the city improve the street safety and achieve vision zero. >> thanks bryan and as bryan said gathering we'll be feedback
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from people that bike through the z that walk and drive through it and as the mayor said we'll be doing an evaluation to see what is working and not and other parts of city finally i want to acknowledge the 0 folks out here with the jack hammers powerfully concrete and from a construction were the ones that were contracted to do this around the city and want to give them a shout out this project and many others and the other contractors that work with side benefit of all that work we're trading jobs for san francisco businesses that's it we look forward to seeing how this works and it seems to be working as designed works well and safely i
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hope to keep that that way everyone of the fatality collisions we hear and read about through throughout the year tragic and every one of them is preventable that is to help to prevent them along with educating people when the laws and about how to get around town safely and changing the laws but that work is important we can get to zero with projects like this thanks very much we appreciate everyone coming out
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>> we will start our meeting with a pledge to the flag. >> i pledge allegiance to the flag to the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> this is i reminder to silence all electronic devices san francisco fire commission regular meeting wednesday february 8, 2017 and the time is 9:03 a.m.. roll call. president cleaveland. >> present. >> vice president nakajo. >> present. >> commissioner hardeman. >> i am here.
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>> commissioner covington. >> present. >> chief of department joanne hayes-white. >> here. >> item 2 general public comment. members of the public may address the commission up to three minutes on any matter within the jurisdiction and does not appear on the agenda. speakers shall address the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or to personnel and commissioners are not to enter do discussion or debate with a speaker. the lack of a statement doesn't support or not with any public comment. >> is there any public comment? seeing none public comment is closed. >> item 3 approval of the minutes. discussion and possible action to approve meeting minutes of january 25, 2017 regular meeting. >> is there comment on the minutes? commissioners what is
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your pleasure? >> so moved, the minute mr. chair. >> do i have a second? >> second. >> thank you. >> for both the regular and special? do you want to do it separately? >> separately. >> okay. >> all in favor of approving the minutes. >> aye. >> minutes for the january 25, 2017 minutes any public comment? none. public comment is closed. do i have a motion. >> motion. >> second. >> all in favor say aye. >> aye. >> thank you. >> item 4 draft operating budget for fiscal year of 2017-2018/2018-2019 discussion and possible action to adopt the fire department's operating budget for fiscal years 2016-2017/2017-2018 --
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2016-2019. >> good morning. >> good morning president cleaveland, commissioners. give me one moment to pull up the slide show. okay. there we go. okay. good morning. i wanted to go over and present on the department's budget proposal for the 17-18 and 18-19 years. there was a budget book in your packetd and i will briefly go over that, get into the details and answer any questions that may come up. so i wanted to do -- excuse me. a little brief overview on the instructions and timelines from the mayor's office that has been touched on previous meetings and a overview of. the review of the budget document before you, some of the
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changes in the budget, the department's proposal, and then open up for any discussion you may have. so here's a brief review of the timeline. here we are on the eighth of february for potential action on the budget and due on the 21st and june 1 is when the mayor's budget is due to the board of supervisors. we have departmental hearings during june and the board considers the budget overall in july. excuse me. just brief review of the budget instructions. these are stemming from the city's five year financial plan update back in december. the city over the next two years is looking at after overall defit of 400 mundz and increasing in the out years. departments have been requesting to reduce the general fund support by 3% in each year so
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cumulative 6% in the second jeer and for the department thoopts 1.7 in the next year and no new punishes as part of the budget proposals. >> >> so a little summary of the budget. so last year is the two year budget. last year approved the second year, fiscal year '17-18 during that process. that has been essentially rolled over for the first year of this budget process so any adjustments prirchl rates and valerie rates and work orders updated those have been roll overd and. it includes assumptions for the hiring plan over the next few year as well as the equipment plan funded in last year's budget process so the numbers will change in the book over the next couple of weeks. we have a couple of weeks until submission and adjustments to the staffing
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models and technical adjustments but nothing material in scope other than what has been presented to you before. so briefly going over some of the changes and the appropriation on page -- in your budget book on page i will touch on briefly on some of the appropriation changes. you will see there is a large change on page 16 of 82 of your budget document. there's some changes in salaries, frirchl bchs. a lot that of is driven by mou requirements and changes and negotiated rates in addition to some of the fringe rates that have been incorporated into the budget system and including retirement and health benefit changes et cetera. you will see a increase in regular salaries and decrease in over time and part of the department's hiring over the years as we see increase the
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staffing we will see the over time reduce and the regular salaries increase and in addition a lot of the non salary work orders they're negotiated during the mayor's portion of the budget and not in our department's budget. jumping brief leave to the revenues if you look at page nine of 82 that's an overall revenue summary. we are looking altsome potential increases to fire prevention revenues as well as ems mainly on that side due to call victim. there were increases incorp -- volume. there were increases in the volume and we did that and anticipated that in the next two years as well and increased ems revenue. fire prevention as well and looking at current year activities. we anticipated a small increase and we didn't raise fees last year and we're
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looking at it due to salaries and benefits over the last two years to recover the cost. ems are triggered with the increase and baked into the legislation that establishes the establish to charge. overall highlighting some of the changes you will see by kind of division or subject area on page 21 of 82 in your book there's kind of break out by division. i will start with administration and support services. that's essentially an annualization of current positions that were funded in the current year as well as wage increases incorporated into the budget and also mandatory fringe benefit changes. in addition there were work orders approved last year in the budget. those increases that are known are included in the department's
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budget. excuse me. for fire prevention we're maintaining current staffing levels. that's consistent with some of the initiatives that the fire marshal has proposed in the current year in regards to realignment of the complaint section as well as some of the outreach and that it continuation of the dbi funded positions so we have an inspector and investigator that we assigned to outreach as well as additional staffing to deal with some of the implementation of some of the new legislation from the board. in addition the increase part of that is due to annualization for a fiscal year and we adjusted over time to account for activity on the revenues and expenditure side. we have increases due to mou and the benefit range rates.
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they're incorporated into the staff. annualization of new positions and battalion five that has been done for the fiscal year and reduction in over time and increase in the staff we're seeing and continuing the fleet and equipment program that was approved last year in the budget and in addition a few of the new positions at the airport are annualized as well and h28 approved for staffing and in the process and may have been announced for training at the airport as well. in addition some of the one time projects removed last year and $800,000 allocated for the preplan so to speak on the dpsems facility as part of the health bond and a one time allocation. i
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addition a lot of the it and capital project budgets were nltd finalized and going through the vetting process again in the current year and related to some of the bond work there is quality and furniture and that added after additional conversations ins the mayor's office. so overall with regards to the proposal as i mentioned we are looking at a 1.7 million dollars request for reductions. together so far we have approximately 705,000 of that offsetting from revenues as i mentioned, ems and fire prevention revenues. however, the department -- the belief is the additional cuts to that for the operational issues in light of what has been discussed at previous meeting and the increase in call volume and i will get into that a little bit
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in addition there is limit the flexibility from the operational perspective and other areas of the budget. thank you. sorry. i am under the weather. we have limited staffing and mou requirements and the lack of non expenditure side and there are additional strains on that due to the call volume but limited overall of the budget and a very small percentage. so the department also proposing to continue to work closely with the mayor's budget office and staff over the months in advance of the mayor's budget submittal on june 1. the committee will continue to meet to address priorities, potential for cost savings and in addition justifications for current funding for the department as well as other initiatives. as the chief mentioned at the last commission meeting the reconvening of the ambulance work group city-wide and look
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at ems resources and do analysis of staffing and other resources on the ems side going forward. just briefly i wanted to highlight again as kind of the overall theme that as we looked at the bottoming and operations the main thing that sticks out is the increased call volume and since the late fall a large spike over what we projected and we're looking at addressing that. the ems work group will do a good job at looking at nexts with response but call volume is a huge driver of our operations obviously and continuing to see increases in that given reduction requests and resources that we currently have we're trying to resolve any issues outstanding from that. so with that i would like to open any questions or discussion that you have. thank you. >> thank you mr. corso. is
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there any public comment on this item? seeing none public comment is closed. commissioners discussion? questions? . commissioner covington. >> thank you mr. president. thank you for your presentation mr. corso. i have a couple of quick questions to begin with. i am wondering about on page 16 utilities -- excuse me. could you define utilities? >> in general? let me find that specific -- in general that
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is for -- if i could find it real quick. usually it's for things such as electricity, sewer -- a lot is broken out into work orders but let me pull that specific line up. >> so we pay pg&e directly for -- >> correct. we pay the water department for sewer and wastewater through a separate work order which is a separate line item here. this is in general for -- let me find that real quick. this is a lot for treasure island as well. they have a little different structure through tida so that's in general for station utilities not covered with work orders through other departments. >> okay. so what is our pg&e
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bill? because i noticed this line item in the budget is constant. it's $74,000. >> correct so part of is a lot of the utility rates are negotiated over the next months in the budget, want by our office but the mayor's office on a total city-wide allocation and depending on each individual department's perspective that is what the budget will be and adjusted at the mayor's office level. >> okay. so do you have a figure for our pg&e bill? >> i do not off the top of my head but i can get one. >> okay. i am interested because i think in the last commission meeting i asked about solar panels for fire houses, and i did get a very informative email from chief rivero giving
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me some ideas but i think this is something that we probably need to have a presentation on at some point. solar panels or you know something else to assist us with these budgets, so i don't know what the pg&e bill is. i don't know how high it goes, and that information would be helpful in our conversation, so i would request of our president that we have mohammed nuru chat about green roofs opposed to solar roofs so we can have more information of. we have to just as you do with your own family budget you have to look at how you can save money. i mean $74,000 for instance is
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not a lot of money, but if you save that ten times you're talking about a real chunk of change, so going forward i think we need to look at everything and examine all possibilities. >> absolutely. we have tried as much as we can on smaller scale working with the puc on energy efficiency and for example boilers or lights, things like that. obviously in the big picture they're small items but if you apply to all of the locations they can add up for sure. >> we have a lot of property, and you know and in family homes people aren't there all day long, you know 24 hours a day, but the san francisco fire department is in our fire houses 24 hours a day, the lights are on literally, so we should look at that, and i also wanted to know a little bit about on page
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nine the medical cannabis dispensary. >> yes. >> okay. so the projection is for -- the projection is for -- >> 880, yes. >> yes. >> so in general i don't think it's that frequent and i could probably defer to the fire marshal for a little more of an explanation. we do get a few requests every year for informations related to that. -- inspections related to that. obviously the revenue is small so it's infrequent but there are occasions we're requested to do inspections at facilities. >> okay. so it's just inspection of the property? >> correct. we wouldn't be charged with any of the like the business permitting or anything like that. it's part of the normal fire -- as far as code
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and safety. it's a referral from another department for fire saipt. >> so it's on a referral basis? >> correct. >> okay. i will hold my other questions until other commissioners have a chance mr. president. >> thank you commissioner covington. commissioner hardeman. >> thank you mr. chair. as usual mr. corso a very efficient -- i know just plugging in numbers in some respects but in other respects it's each one of these little lines and there are hundreds of them that have a number that you're responsible for. you do a great job in your analysis and your recommendations. >> thank you. >> so in the funding for any staff positions related to the fire department that are i assume are just staff we
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wouldn't have to worry about if there is any cuts, and i'm not talking about the sanctuary city cuts. i am talking about the other funding sources. how many of those are in jeopardy? >> are you referring like the new hiring or the academies that we're projecting or in general? >> i am talking about the employees, some of the staff people that have significant jobs for us that are part of homeland security money -- >> oh on the federal side? >> yes. >> i think a lot of that is unknown at this time. we are currently funded and we have applied for -- so we're funded and applied for the next round of funding and i believe there is another round coming up in a few months. i don't think it's anything currently allocated. that would be an issue and in
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the future years going forward the potential we wouldn't be able to apply or receive federal funding so currently we are essentially funded for three, two and a half federal positions. we have the homeland security director. we have an information sharing position and we have a planner that assists with nert and the department of emergency management. they're funded by federal homeland security grants so those would be the three positions. in addition there's a number of equipment and other awards that we received that could potentially be in jeopardy, but i think a lot of that is still unknown both within the department obviously but city-wide or federally as well. there's been a lot of talk what the administration would want to do in certain instances and talk about what they could do as far as pulling federal funding. i
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think there is confusion around what is allowable and in addition the uncertainty surrounding the implications of actually implementing those policies so i guess that's a long way of saying there's a lot of uncertainty surrounding that but currently we're funded for three positions with federal grants. >> thank you. and they're very important positions as we all know -- >> absolutely. >> anybody that works in the fire department knows how hard they work and how valuable they are. the savings on overtime is terrific. that's remarkable number and that will go into the new staffing for the additional classes. would that be used this year for the additional employees, i guess the new h 2.s or covered by other funds? >> our staffing model overall and we have a minimum level so we know what to fill every year and because of budget
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reductions we didn't hire as much so we relied on overtime and that increase and the relative salaries decrease because of the redecrease in staff and we're going the other way and building back the staff in anticipation of retirements of course but we're restoring the staffing and adding to the overall net staffing and reduces the need for overtime. >> very good. i see you're soaking wet like me. i took the streetcar down and couldn't see and it was so wet and i see you wiping yourself and 45 minutes ago and i am still soaking wet. the volume on the -- increased volume for primarily engines and ambulances as were so good about giving us these graphs. as commissioners we love. the sky rocketing the last four years
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so that's basically a multiple of each year, so it goes up 5% this last year based on the year before and went up so many percent and the year before so you know we're looking at for our chiefs that are responsible for directing the departments like chief myers with the ambulances the effects of just pyramiding of more and more -- does there come a point where we're trying to reach the goals of on time is just absolutely impossibility because you can't go 100 miles on 95 miles of gas. i mean it doesn't happen, thank you so much how do we deal with that to give you know the mayor has to understand we can't do a 3% budget cut on a 5% volume
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increase. that really is more than 5% and the year before and the year before and the year before and each year that number keeps shooting up, and we don't have anymore ambulances and we don't have any more engines. >> absolutely. that's the theme that came up. the budget committee met talking about our budget and talking to division heads that's the core issue we're dealing with and we totally -- i do want to say we're extremely appreciative of what the mayor's office has allocated over the years and we're absolutely working with them going forward but i think the issue we're struggling with internally there are reduction requests here but on the other side we provide a core service to the city and the demand continues to increase and how do we balance that? i think in regards from a operational
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perspective the ems and ambulance work group is looking at that a bit. there are a number of issues that relate to it. it's not just fire department specific so that's why there's a number of partners from public health and the hospitals and a lot of factors that go into patient care and response and those issues will addressed and brought up and analyzed at the work group level. >> did you want to check in now on this subject -- not you but the chief and wants to answer chief. go ahead. >> thank you. thank you president cleaveland. i just wanted to add you're absolutely right. that's why we feel that we need to convey to the mayor's office in order to continue the level of service we're providing over the course over the last years we see a constant increase. it's not surprising and our population in the city is 863,000, nearly 864,000
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residents so with the increase we have seen the increase in call volume so i think it's an excellent observation. it's something we will discuss at the ems work group meeting on monday. thank you. >> thank you mr. corso. i knew you would give a great answer and not to put you on the spot and to get it on the public record and anybody watching or listening or the supervisors watching and the mayor has a different situation when dealing with the fire department because it -- you know life health and safety of all the residents and the visitors. it can't just be considered 3% cut and that's the way it goes, so i think trying to help the mayor that it's out there that this department has a little different problem. thank you. i asked you a couple of meetings ago about the square footage about the chief's
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residence and you sent it out us to 3415 square feet and all the -- you broke down all the expenses that related to keeping that in good shape which are very expensive, but that's something we have to maybe have to deal with at some point what to do because this question has been going on as long as i have been on the commission and every year we keep putting it off so at this point it has to come and find the money to fix it or whatever. let's see. the one item and i think you brought this up last year also because it's one of the commissioners asked about the 30 plus million for electrical. that's a huge number. that's like the biggest number. it encompasses a bunch
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of items but i hope the safety on the electrical we can get into. i know some of the items that might be related to tech -- high-tech or something but hopefully we take care of the anything that might be a safety issue on the electrical. that's just my comment. >> absolutely. i think just in general overall the electrical infrastructure at our stations is quite old and out dated e spill given the current demands on it for equipment, for systems because of the age of our facilities and as we're doing work at our stations as a result of the bond we're updating and addressing the issues but as things pop up during the year we fix them with the funding that we have to that extent but overall the infrastructure doesn't support the demands for electrical for the familiarities. >> thank you for what you do
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and delighted for representing the fire department and the chief with the people that make the final decision. keep up the good attitude. thank you. >> thank you commissioner hardeman. commissioner nakajo. >> thank you. i had the opportunity to review the budget booklet. in terms of page seven and eight of 82 it has the organizational chart of the department. my question to you is again just for reinforcement what is the total number of the personnel within the san francisco fire department? >> uniform and civilian? >> yes. >> i believe it's approximately 1650. yeah. i would say that's about 75 civilian staff and the remainder
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are uniform. can i confirm that but it's what i have off of the top of my head. >> 75 civilian and how many uniform? >> 1575. >> okay. what percentage of personnel is part of this budget? >> overall? so that's one of our constraints given the minimum staffing levels. it's about 91% overall budget goes to salaries and benefits for perm and then there's -- personnel and portions and workers' comp and larger ticket items and the cost of doing business that goes into that so the amount of flexibility we have is rather small. >> what the percentage for that flexibility? >> i would say for example for our a lot of our materials and supplies, things of that nature it's probably between five and 7%. >> okay. and capital is separate from this annual budget? >> i'm sorry?
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>> capital is straight from this annual -- separate from the budget? >> yes but what is in last year is included so if you look at page 18 and 19 of your booklet you will see a section labeled "annual projects and continuing projects" at the bottom of page 18. in general you will see the two line items for facility and maintenance and renewals. those are the capital budget projects and approved last year in the two year budget process so we have some capital funding allocated to us but overall the entire process even thee it was a two year budget each year it's reviewed again so even though it was allocated last year in the process it's not necessarily what we're allocated this year in the process. >> okay. but that separate capital line item has been granted previously? >> yes, it was approved and
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the details are on page -- for example on -- if you look at page 37 and 38 it gives a little bit of detail on our facility maintenance and renewal projects that were allocated so last year in the budget it was the '16-17 fiscal year budget and approved the budget for 16-17 and 17-18 and we reviewing the '17-18 budget and 18-19 budget and there were projects approved and on page 38 you see exhaust extractor and other projects and allocated in that previous budget but as part of the annual process they will be reviewed again. >> okay. but in terms of the discussion are the dollars intact, the capital dollars as part of this budget in. >> i think so. there is some
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discussion with the financial difficultes and what the budget is looking at and city-wide and not departmental but looked at for savings and a discussion that will continue with the mayor's office overall and even though they have been allocated and we will advocate for them and obviously we will but they will be reviewed in the overall balances of the city's budget. >> in terms of the department's budget director corso what is your feeling on those items for us to remain pretty much intact or is there room for some -- >> i think the department's request would be to remain intact. we have a number of facility issues and that is done comprehensively on the easter bond and things pop up daily where we're looking at general
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maintenance and hvac repairs and they're crucial to the normal every day operations and mentioned from a health and safety perspective exhauster repair and critical to our members. >> okay. you said we have a goal of 9.5 left out of the 7.5? >> correct. >> in terms of the 7.5 you talked about that being part of savings and revenue income in. revenue. >> so that is revenue for the entire amount and part is ems revenue and the remainder fire prevention revenue. >> okay. which leads me to as i review this line by line and looked at page 11, 12, 13 before i began to
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realize as i looked at these various items in the spirit of trying to identify revenue if revenue identification is part of the goals to offset -- i didn't know how it was going to work. i know how it worked previously and sometimes when we identify revenue savings that works against us. do you know what i am talking about mr. corso when i make that reference? >> no. i don't. you can explain that a bit. >> when we have revenue savings and increase revenues or savings and go into our general fund and my interpretation that is part of the 3% cut. is that accurate or not? >> so the goal of the 3% is reduce the department's or any department's dependency on the general support and there are two ways and one reduce cost in some matter and the second is add and supplement the revenue from the city through
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additional revenues and i wouldn't say it hinders us per se but another way to offset some of the city's department's dependence on general fund support. >> okay with that explanation and that's qhai was hoping for. what i did as i reviewed the revenue income page 10, 11 as i went down various items commissioner covington mentioned the line of medical cannabis dispensary fees. i see other city property rentals, intergovernmental revenue states, charges for service, and i side notes and the simple thinking i know there is thing with the cannabis fees but being a layperson on the commission with fiscal with the recent change of laws with the medical cannabis if we -- the
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department are involved in some aspect of that my point of view was to increase our charge. if there's a minimum amount of work that is required with that that's one thing but if there are other aspects that the department can investigate to increase our revenues, increase charges, i didn't know again whether or not those were feasible. other city property rentals page ten of 82 line 39899 and talks about the department receives revenues from mobile phone companies that have installed transmission towers on department property. i know in some years being on this commission that was controversial in some ways because by puttin antennas and with the members of the station and it
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was a popular revenue source so again my point of view when i see items like that medical cannabis and the property and public safety sales, tax allocation the department receives a portion of the city's sales tax revenue and allocated for public safety purposes to support this operation and as it goes down in terms of page 11 other government changes, false alarm response fees, pre-application, i decided instead of going line by line since it's pretty much pretty similar page 11, page 12, page 13 the question that came to my mind is how realistic is it and i am presenting to you as a question and perhaps you want to ask the fire marshal and look at these areas and increasing our fees. at the point of view many departments are increasing their fees but i didn't know whether that was increase of fees that we pass along is realistic and
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i wanted to hear something about how feasible is that in this climate presently in terms of economics and construction and development? because all of these pages, 11, 12, 13 i marked construction costs but my notes on every level is look into, possibilities to increase, possibilities to increase but again i stopped in terms of trying to ask this question through you director corso. >> yes, so i would say the general comment to fees we're not allowed to recoup more than the cost of providing the services so every year we look at that. last year we were able to absorb some of the into the fees and with the additional benefit and salary increases we have requested about 4% increase to our fees for specifically speaking fire prevention and the level of activity obviously is
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something that the city is looking at projection wise. i think we have seen a lot of the growth over the last few years level off. to say it's still strong but the growth has leveled off on that so we look at what we have in the current year and what we're projecting going forward to arrive at those level of activities and specifically to the cannabis i think that's something studied city-wide. as far as the implication on it i anticipate we're involved in the conversations going forward but anticipate the frequency increasing as more and more come on line with changes in legislation so that is as the fire marshal mentioned it's kind of a referral basis and we're referred by another department to do an inspection. >> all right. i recognize being an amateur with good spirit and i am nickel and diming this to get to that amount but every cent helps in
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some aspect but again i am trying to be real conscious as to that and fear of a pass along increase and what that does to contractors or et cetera. you have given me that answer. i started to proceed on page 14, page 15 but it hits the categorical and insurance revenue, ambulance billing, contractual adjustments, the same question came about. how realistically is it for us at this particular point to increase particular fees in ambulance or that particular area which is separate from -- >> separate from prevention for sure. we do the same on the ambulance side and cover the fees to provide ems services city-wide. as i mentioned previously there is a cpi medical increase built into the legislation that increases our fees every year. it's a little
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different on the ambulance side as compared to the prevention size because in general we get paid by prevention up front and in order to do the work we need to be paid for that work where on the ems side it's reimbursement basis and for example for medicare or medi-cal no matter how much you raise the fees you're not increasing the revenues you're bringing in and the fee increase affects private insurance but not medicare or medi-cal and when talking about federal uncertainty is changes to the affordable care act and how does that change the insurance demographics of the population that we're picking up? we're working -- a lot of people are obviously with potential changes in projecting that out and what does it actually mean to our population and does it mean less insured people? does it mean the payer mix is different? so those things are discussed kind of on
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a higher level but that's the main difference between fire prevention and the ems fees. >> all right. director corso i'm glad that we're having this discussion and the public is aware of the in terms of fees whether it's medicare or medi-cal there is a limitation of increase. in terms of fire prevention you made a statement we're not allowed on certain categoricals to increase. why is that? >> it's not we're not allowed to increase. we're not allowed to recover more than what our costs are providing the service essentially profiting from the service provided. with that there are additional costs that are not part of -- it's not just salary and benefits of the people. it's materials and supplies. it's the vehicle replacement. it's our
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administrative staff so all the additional costs are wrapped into those fees to essentially show the total cost of providing service. >> thank you. it's interesting that again part of this discussion in terms of budget is that we're reducing over time and the over time as a result of personnel that we have. there used to be an argument it was cheaper for us to do over time than have personnel. do you recall that statement? >> i do and i would say that's technically true but i think you get into operational issues and i think one of the things we had that we're obviously getting out is mandatory over time, any impacts from that, and so with the additional staff we're reducing that department's dependency on over time. >> all right. i was of the mind if more personnel would help reduce over time particularly since mandatory over time is a hardship within the members and budgetary and
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to the membership so for me to reinforced a concept of having an ample work force to be able to counter that so i wanted to get a little feedback on that and you did do that. mr. president i am going to stop at this particular point. if there are other questions from the commissioners so i can regroup with my notes. >> thank you mr. vice president. mr. corso i have a few questions. can you define exactly what is premium pay? >> so there a number of premiums and incentives beyond the member salary rate would be. for example there is premiums for commissi -- hazardous materials and working at certain locations and incentives as far as training and education and holiday pay
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and working out in the mou and paid on top of what the member's base salary is. >> so premium pay is in the mous. >> correct. >> and it's time and a half. >> it's percentage base so the members work holidays and don't get paid extra for working the holiday but overall there is a six and a half percent premium attached that members can take or time coming. >> thank you. the overtime i am glad to see it's going to down significantly. what constitutes the bulk of the eefer time? is it ems, fire prevention services? is it fire suppression services? where is the over time? >> it's mainly concentrated on the minimum staffing requirements so for engines, trucks there is a portion obviously for the ambulance tier and there is a small portion
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for prevention, other units, fire investigation, et cetera, but the large bulk comes from staffing and fire suppression and ems. >> so this is prop f. >> yes. >> and based about 2004 staffing levels. correct. >> i believe around that time so we have increased the staffing since then. we opened up a new station at mission bay and station 51 in the presidio and that increased but we still have a mandated number of shifts we need to fill and the less people we have the more we need over time. >> of course. >> but right now we're shifting the other way as we hire staff. >> how do you determine the minimum staffing levels of new stations? how do you do that? >> a lot is on the surrounding
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area and the development and high rises versus open space. it depends on the already existing resources that exist around that area. we look at response times and projections how quickly current units could get there, where it needs to go, so there's a lot of data looked in preparation of development. >> who makes those decisions? >> the department. we work closely with the mayor's office and also on the planning side, a lot of the work done by chief rivero and other chiefs and development and fire safety as well as responsibilities are taken into account as part of the development. >> so you use a 1104 baseline and look at the surrounding areas and determine whether it needs to be boosted? >> so that baseline is for day to bay operations. it doesn't necessarily have a baseline of anything new development wise, how you would staff that. it's
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was a snapshot in time and that would be the minimum staffing and as we supplement we add to that but it doesn't necessarily serve us -- it doesn't give a lot of data as far as what we project for a new development because there are so many factors visited. >> what i am getting at there is flexibility in that. >> and commissioner nakajo mentioned that and a lot goes to operations and staffing -- >> and 91% of the budget is personnel related. >> correct, so staffing that and make sure we meet minimal staffing that's where the majority of expenditures go. >> specialized services and what is that for? >> it's a variety of things such as we have our medical director contract. we have health check, our work with cpmc, a variety of contractual
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services that the city doesn't provide and we supplement resources in order to allocate funding to it. >> on workers' comp you have $9 million promo -- proposed spent and then the next year and who pays those costs? do we pay our own workers' comp? i thought workers' comp is paid by the state? >> the city has its own division and we're self insured and don't have insurance so to speak so we pay our costs and the budget comes from the department based on past history and projection of issues et cetera and funded through the city. for the department it shows up in the department of human resources workers' comp division. >> how do we monitor our
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workers' comp cost? and claims? >> so we do not have a workers' comp unit per se in the department so we hr works closely with the department of human resources. they have policies and procedures in place for those issues and they process all the claims. when we have a member and a potential workers' comp claim and get them set up and the paperwork but dhr administers the program. >> if we could reduce the workers' comp program by a million dollars and we would be there and meeting the mayor's budget reductions. >> absolutely and depends on the number of people and the issues they may have. some are kind of ongoing issues so it would be -- yeah, that's true. it's a little more difficult -- yeah. >> easier said than done. question. who pays us? i know
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the airport pays for our fire department services. is there any other agency or any other group out there that's paying for our services? >> absolutely. so when we're talking about the reductions it's based off the general fund support which is a different number than the overall budget because we get paid for the airport and staffing and by the port of san francisco for fire boat staffing and maintenance there. there's also a number of revenues we received from the state. there's a big line item for public safety sale little tax so that's a portion of the sales tax that isal indicated to public safety and that's for police and fire and sheriff as well. other than outside of our revenues and smaller grants for homeland security, for staffing of those positions the majority is from the general fund through city tax revenue et cetera.
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>> okay. commissioners i think we have a deadline here that we have to meet. we have to submit this by february 21. our next meeting is february 22 that i believe so we need to discuss what we're going to do with our proposed budget today. i know that mr. corso has prepared a letter that we will send to the mayor's office outlining our position on the proposed budget, and the proposed requested reductions, so i think we need to have a discussion about whether we want to send the letter, the draft letter, which i believe each of you should have received a copy from mr. corso of a letter stating our position, so with that in mind do we want to have
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some more conversation commissioners? >> commissioner covington. >> thank you president cleaveland. first of all i would like to move that we accept the san francisco fire department fiscal years 2017-18 and 2018-19 operating budget and i will wait for a second on that and then i will ask for a motion on the letter. >> do we have a second? >> [inaudible] [off mic] >> thank you commissioners. >> thank you. do we want to vote on it at this time? >> do we want to have discussion first? >> i thought we have been discussing it. >> any other -- vice president nakajo. >> thank you. director corso as we move towards on adoption of the question and there's a
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letter that we're talking about jointly as we have previously from the commission and the administration the bulk of the letter states that we're going to be working within this next time frame approximately two weeks to come to the figure of total compliance. is that not the spirit of the letter and the intention? >> so first of all i wanted to be clear that's just proposed language for a letter for example an example what has been presented in the past if the commission chooses to submit a letter i am happy to work with you on ironing out the language there. i have not sent to two of the commissioners and part the general discussion and not finalized so that is absolutely a work that can be sorted out over the next couple weeks before the submission. i don't think the intent was to work with the mayor's office over the next weeks but over the months closely with the mayor's office
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prior to their submittal of the budget by the first of june so there will be work done over the next couple of weeks as i mentioned reviewing our staffing numbers et cetera but as far as getting into some of the details on potential cost savings that would be kind of a longer process over the next months. >> all right. point of clarification so in terms of this particular commission meeting with this budget you're looking for approval of the budget? >> correct. essentially approval of what the department is proposing even though we're short of the recommended reduction and essentially the word from the department that we will work very closely internally and with the mayor's office over the next months on outstanding issues related to the budget. >> all right. thank you very much for that comment. i know we the commission and the department are very appreciative of the mayor and the staff for the department and grateful for that support
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and realizing the call volume increase. thank you and one city the population of city and county of san francisco at this time and commissioner hardeman talking about increased population that denotes increased call volume and at some commission meetings down the road we will talk what the ems ambulances respond to because they respond but there is discussion in terms of the clients out there, the frequent fliers et cetera that take up some time and whether or not we are able to work towards a poz in terms of serving all members of the public with that. thank you very much for this opportunity to ask that question mr. president, commissioner covington thank you. >> thank you mr. vice president and i share your sentiments. chief hayes-white. >> thank you president cleaveland. thank you president cleaveland. i would also like to acknowledge director corso
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for putting together an excellent report. he's been working hard with the budget committee. what was put together as a draft is similar the past and i echo your sentiments about being team players and being appreciative of our good working relationship with the mayor's office. having said that given the realities of the call volume and the population increase we want to commit to making sure we can provide the same level of service. we have ideas about revenue and we do think we can at least come part way of the what we're being asked, but at this time at least given the climate i feel it's irresponsible to offer further reductions given the fact that we're working harder than we ever worked before so we will commit to continuing the dialogue. we have in the past. we have worked collaboratively to get our hiring plan rock
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solid as well as our fleet plan and we really think that the momentum is in our favor but to shrink back at this time is irresponsible to recommend doing, but recognizing that everyone needs to roll up their sleeves and get the work done and live within their means but we will commit to continuing having that discussion and conversation. >> thank you chief. with that said mr. corso thank you. commissioners we have a motion on the floor. are soy? >> [inaudible] [off mic] >> do we have public comment? no public comment. public comment is closed. do we want to go ahead and approve this draft budget and then work with the chief and with mr. corso on a letter to the mayor stating our position? >> [inaudible] [off mic]
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>> we have a motion and a second. . >> all in favor say aye? >> aye. >> it's unanimous. >> and the budget -- >> as presented so you need to have a letter stating that that we will work with mr. corso and the chief and we will circulate it to all the commissioners so we can formally state our position on this budget to the mayor's office. >> do you want a second motion on that? >> not on the agenda. >> not on the agenda. okay. >> all right. we will work on it. all right. any further discussion on this? vice president nakajo. >> i just want to make sure that commissioner covington is good with us working on the letter internally? >> oh most certainly. i think the letter is vital to our needs
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going forward. >> i am of the same mind as well. thank you very much mr. president, commissioners thank you. >> thank you. madam secretary. >> item 5 chief of department's report. report on current issues activities and events within the department since the fire commission meeting of january 25, 2017 including budget, academies, special events, communications and outreach to other government agencies and the public. and report from operations on overall field operations including greater alarm fires, emergency medical services, bureau of fire prevention and investigation and airport division and update on h-23 classification. >> good morning again president cleaveland, commissioners. this is my report since our last meeting of january 25 regarding the budget. you just heard regarding as
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we're moving forward and we appreciate your interest and your support, and the fact that i know our budget committee last week president cleaveland you couldn't be there but vice president nakajo was there and that's really important. we're in the third year with the budget committee, and that has worked out really well for us. for the current fiscal year we're on track for revenues and expenditures and the budget committee met last week on january 31. regarding academies, the 121st academy is in the 11th week and anticipated graduation date is april 14 and at riordan high school in the morning and we are on track for a start of our 122nd academy on april 24. we did ask for a new eligible list which we're reviewing at this time. i believe all members on that
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list have been recently asked to complete a survey for secondary criteria. we have a number of alternates that worked through the process last time that will go through updated toxicology testing and so forth and those members will be also considered in part of the 122nd class. in addition we will be in the next week or so casting a wider net to invite more members off of the list to background. in regard to h-23 classification academy and the ems academy they're due to graduate and in session and graduate february 24. there is 26 members in that class. we started with 30 and down to 36. we also have some ha per deem paramedics and cross over to full time ems and paramedics h3 level twos that process begins
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next week on february 13. regarding special events communications and outreach myself and the deputies attended the mayor of the state of the city address on january 26. also with the four new supervisors that have come into office typically what i will do is i understand send a letter to each of them asking for a sit down to get to know one another and provide an overview of the mission of the fire department and we did that for the new supervisors and net with supervisor sheehy and when scott wiener became state senator. that meeting went well and interested in our mission, our statistics call volume and so forth so we look forward to working with him and meeting the other three new supervisors. on
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saturday the 20th i attended at portsmouth's scbair the chinese new year kick off with the chief and a number of leaders and department heads. on the 31st and you will hear more about this at a presentation i believe you have the agenda for the 22nd and hear directly from director hey and i had the opportunity with the deputies to meet with the ten members of the department that went through 154 hour frs community paramedicine program which was very well received and it's sort of value added that we're working with partners at department of public health regarding a certain population that we respond to that don't necessarily need 911 services but receive more services in tune with their
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needs and dr. hay spearheaded that with conjunction of department department of public health and we presented the certificates to the members and they're very dedicated. it's basically a calling because you're working with you know a population in the city that as vice president nakajo said frequent users of the system that might be better served in another arena if you will, so i will let dr. hay get into that on the 22nd in his presentation because that has been a year in the making and we have a year worth of data, so and you will hear from chief gonzales that all of our ems employees will go through eight hours of training in addition to their current training related to our work for the sobering center and the department of public health. on february 3 deputy chief williams and i
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attended black history month celebration here at city hall in the rotunda. i know commissioner covington was there as well. and on just yesterday a number of us met with the department of human resources at our request to review the promotional exam schedule, talk about different ideas that we have to make sure we're on the same page and streamlined approach so that we have -- so we make sure we can and convey to our employees what the schedule is going to be, so they can have an opportunity to make their plans if they're interested in taking a promotional examination so that was very well received and we got good information and we asked for a few things for them to consider. on the 11th as you know we will be participating with asian firefighters association in the chinese new year's parade and meeting at
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430 at second and market to participate in that parade which is always enjoyable and i am hearing it's going to be dry on saturday so that's good and on the 13th of february it's already been brought up the reconvening of the ems work group to look at the good work that all of the stakeholders had come together with a couple of years ago when we were noticing that increase call volume and response times getting to a point where we were concerned. it's important to note even with the increased call volume we have some specific challenges but very close on to the 90 percentile, the ten minutes for the transport unit for the month of july which you know was very busy given a lot of different
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parameters and weather issues and good to convene and trends we're seeing so we can be responsive in the months and years to come and that concludes my report at this time. >> thank you chief. do we want to have questions of the chief now or do we want to go on to our next report? okay. let's have the operations -- do we have any public comment on the chief's report? seeing none public comment is closed. chief gonzales let's have your operations report. >> good morning president breed and commissioners, good morning chief. >> >> deputy chief mark gonzales. this is the operations department for january. i give my apologies to you the commission i'm sorry i didn't give the report last week of the flu bug hit our office hard. within this period there was 13 working fires and second alarms
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and january 5 and on clear don. initially came into something burning and engine 20 was the first to respond and see smoke in the area and the trees. upon approval on the cul-de-sac it was a burn tire and found a victim on the second floor andress cued the victim. engine 12 assisted and and in the back bedroom and evolved and other divisions were on the scene. [inaudible] assigned to delta exposure to heavy smoke from the address. therefore precautionary was struck and see heavy fire in the back of the building. division two reported on the channel to the companies on scene. during the incident a report was made that a firefighter's leg was punctured and not injured and made a call for the danger and use extreme
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caution in the area. they did a good job at the fire. the next was a greater alarm and january 13 on fulton street. there were two firefighters injured minor burns. the cause of the fire was insiddary with a subsequent arrest. engine 31 reported in route to smoke and working fire and fire from the basement. 31 lead quarter line to the basement and attacked the fire. i would say interior aggressive attack by the crews under difficult conditions in the basement prevented budget to the upper flows and the delta. a coordinated attack was key to the success and moderate damage and to the delta exterior siding. the 30 greater alarm was on january 22 at cabrillo
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across the 15th. there were no injuries and the cause was accidental and with the commander chief burke behind me. 31 was first on scene and determined to be a working fire on the top floor. first hose line went to the fire. there was concern that the fire may have been below engine 31 so the second line was deployed below and third to the rear yard area and ignited between the delta exposure and the building and ventilation was done by a roof cut and good work by the crews. the first alarm crews kept this to minimal damage. on the community outreach i would like to thank the pio, our suppression companies out in the field, our prevention bureau and trained division including recruitment and nert. our outreach has been phenomenal
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and surf cliff and safety messages and fire prevention tips. i would like to remind the public they can go to sf fire.org or follow us on twitter and remind to sign up for emergency notifications and texting us to 888777. during we had had wet weather and safety meanls due to the storm and a lot of good information went out in january. on january 142 naked adults were rescues from below the cliff house and sffd worked well with the coast guard and the park service and treated for minor injuries and provided with temporary clothing and clothing and blankets. on january 4 the crews i would say a phenomenal great
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technical rescue and the male got trapped between the bart platform and car. they used the air bags to facilitate the release of the victim and simultaneously the paramedics had to follow policy so the victim had every chance to survive and survived and semi conscious and he did succumb from the injuries later that evening but i want to commend the crews. they did a great job. january 5 rescue below the cliff house and worked with coast guard and both ams have were unrelated and had minor injuries. on january 7 crews responded to a alarm resulting in two adults being rescue with smoke inhill laigz. on january 8 the dive team responded to city of alameda and
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oakland fire for a submerged vehicle and water rescue. our crews worked well with others and the adult victim succumbed because of the incident and there were high wind storms you remember. we responded to trees down and many rescues. large scaffolding collapsed on market and searched for victims. no am victims remember located and worked mitigating it safely. market street was closed for the event though i would say for a good period of time. first alarm fire on january 21 on blythe dale. the canine was rescued and made the family happy in light of losing their possessions so valuable to you most? loved ones and pets. next a bart rescue and a
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successful rescue. this victim had non life threatening injuries and made it under the platform before the car got into the station. january 26 we hosted members of the tokyo fire service and nert and community outreach. prevention education on january 3 we gave out a lot of smoke alarms, carbon dioxide detectors at the eent. we have been working with the city agencies. they're currently trying to publish a handout and sent to translation services to be done in multiple licenses. as the chief mentioned and the call volume went up and january stayed the same trend. i would like to mention this month we're
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at 89.29% meeting the ten minutes so we're are right there and this month we are under the ten minute threshold and the call volume is not going down so we are addressing what we can internally to streamline what we do. we are making it more ready rigs as we say so ambulance crews and waiting for an ambulance come in and shouldn't have to wait and get in and go. we're making easy for the h8 to call in for shifts and make themselves available. before it was cumbersome and we're addressing that. -- business hours. i mean they started at 6:00 a.m. close to four, 5:00 p.m.. well there's other hours in the day and during the other days of the day from 5:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. we want the rescue captains to work with
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them and hire aggressively if needed. if they're seeing trends of whatever is happening that night hire as much as you can and trying to make that capability more feasible to use. as the chief mentioned the bump up academy and the h academy is in progress and we work with the 911 provider committee on 911 system and analysis and deployment discussions. the ms division continues to work with dpw and assistant chief rivero and myself and cd3 and the chief and assistant chief and scale on the ambulance delivery process. it's been challenging but i think we will have a good facility. i am thankful for the voters to give uslet money to build that facility. as the chief mentioned the ms division is training all of the transport paramedics for the alternate destination pilot and requires eight hours of training. once
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that transport paramedic received the training they can go to the center and a outlet for the patients that we encounter on the street. nine of the ambulances have been received and three in service and the rest are outfitted and joined shortly and the -- and the first step to get this done. we strongly believe this is a administrative advisory position. that's our take on it. we just want the classification done. we are committed to working with all parties including 798. division of fire prevention investigation including in the report and list of permits and plan checkup date. some -- i would like to highlight a few am whys in plan
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check. the warrior's arena is under check and close to approval and moscone and other projects are under review and the subway and pipe review and 1.7 miles of type. on the task and transportation update. turk street project and mta withdraw the proposal. we made it clear that the muni over head wires are challenging for the operators to begin with so if you can find the prais we can operate a away from the requires and impossible to get where we need to go. our truck operators are very -- it's an art to sometimes and shots they get at some of the fires and how did they get the aerial up there? they canvass the area, look at the buildings and ladder the building if we have to. they do it constantly. people think
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they're driving around but they're looking at the area and respond to alarms they're always case tg out and when it comes to the protected bike lanes i understand it but to make it more difficult for us to operate at fires is not the answer so we're trying to work -- we are working well with nt a and i think they're taking some of the suggestions to heart. the second is to market and herman and i think assistant chief burke and others went out with mta and brought one of the trucks out there. i think it was enlightening to see the actual truck there and get an aerial up so hopefully more of these projects will go forward but in conjunction with our fire operations in mind. also include in my report is a bureau of fire investigation. at this time we have 108 open fire
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investigative reports. bfi responded to 21 incidents in january rngs, seven structure requires and one homeless fire and other fires and had consults with chiefs of origin and cause and two arrests made and attached to the san francisco international airport update and that concludes my report. >> thanks chief gonzales. is there any public comment on chief gonzales report? seeing none public comment is closed. commissioners. vice president nakajo. >> thank you very much chief gonzales for your comprehensive report. thank you chief hayes-white. i just have a couple of comments on your
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report. you talked about moving forward with the h-23's. we have been talk about this for quite a while from the commission level, from the department level. i believe that all of us in the commission i will speak for myself, very much support movement on this position. i think it's crucial and essential particularly where we're at in terms of call volume but also because it's a budgeted item as well and with the atmosphere of what is occurring the last thing that would be a negative for this department we do not fill that position and get some operation [inaudible] so i just wanted to remark the importance of that and keep us up to deet with that and hopefully there will be some movement with that. i also wanted to get e enforcement tha
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-- reinforcement chief hayes-white that the work group is reconvening. >> correct. and here at city hall. >> we have a good representation of representatives present and working toward the issues of response time and cal volume? >> correct. we invited the stakeholders and notifying local 798, the private providers, the controller's office, the mayor's office and i believe someone from ems officers' association as well as the paramedic association. >> okay thank you chief. i am looking forward to that meeting. i also at this time wanted to remark that i'm going to be looking forward as the rest of the commissioners to our february 24th update on one year anniversary of ems6 and dr. yay
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with the discussion about call volume and how we can best utilize our resources and try to make good with the increased population as well. definitely will be looking forward to that. in terms of the airport report i understand now that we are occupying our new airport station and at some point chief gonzales i am assuming that the commissioners would be able to go out to the new station and be able to take a view and a tour of what the facilities are at that station. >> absolutely sir. you can go down there anytime but i believe assistant deputy chief kas llanos is planning a grand opening and invite the commissioners and staff to it. do you have a date for that? >> [inaudible] [off mic] >> thank you very much chief.
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i am looking forward to that as well. and then finally in terms of a request at some point chief gonzales, chief hayes-white i would like to do a ride along at station 49 at the so-called off hours. i am getting older but i wouldn't mind a 6:00 p.m. to midnight to 7:00 a.m. shift looks like and what is occurring out there in the streets of san francisco. >> any night you want. >> all right. i will coordinate with your office. >> okay. >> thank you mr. president. >> thank you vice president nakajo. commissioner hardeman. >> thank you mr. chair. chief hayes-white and chief gonzales good reports. thank you. i am glad to hear that chief you have effort to deal with frequent callers or users of the system is given special attention and you have ten people that
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specialize in that -- that is fantastic because when you analyze how often the system is used for people that just are using it over and over with not life-threatening in some cases it's good that you're taken that challenge and dealt with it. good to hear all your classes are on schedule and we still have 52. hopefully they graduate on good friday. that's easy day for us and not a lot of things scheduled and i looked at my calendar and good that's a day that shouldn't be too tough. thanks for the report -- thanks chief newman and [inaudible] and burke for the great job and the alarm fires. nice that you took care of those in good fashion and your report indicated how
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they did and keep to two alarms is great and calling for two alarms is good when any question existed. that was good. the two burned firefighters they all okay back to work. >> i believe they are back to work. >> okay good. so that was something they could deal with without extensive time off. good. congratulations on the 89% for the ambulances. chief myers you must be feeling good. i know when commissioner nakajo and i took a tour of the ambulance it was extremely depressing because we heard from the staff and broken down old torn up ambulance how they break down daily and it was a real morale problem to see we have the six new ones going and the three new coming in and i don't
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know if it increased efficiency but good for morale and the people that use the ambulances and homes practically for part of the day. >> absolutely. >> that's refreshing. sort of defeats our complaint about the increased volume but it just so happens things are going good they go bad it's harder -- more obstacles. seems like you're able to get away from problems. that's terrific news. you answered a question about the airport. that would be fun to see the grand opening on the new modern fire house. i know the one we have down on mission bay on third street is the most incredible building. i think you did a great job on that so if the station in at the
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airport looks anything like that that would be good. on your time i am also bringing this up i talked to fire marshal dekaz io chief gonzales and i don't think we ever had the port fire marshal make a presentation to us on the amount of duties that they have, so the chief -- the fire marshal said it would be fine so getting the fire marshal, the port to do a presentation on his it was which are extensive i think would be informative for the commission so at your call of staff -- >> that is included in my report. >> have the fire marshal come over from the port and have a presentation. >> absolutely. >> when we don't have a busy meeting that would be nice to do. >> you got it. >> used to do a report to us at the port commission but
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seeing that he's not on staff and necessarily -- >> it would be good. >> you have all the brass here but don't see the fire marshal from the report. that's it. great reports. thank you. congratulations. >> thank you commissioner hardeman. commissioner covington. >> thank you mr. president. yes, chief gonzales -- >> i omitted something important in the respect. i forgot to mention and battalion five opened up on the 14th and happy about that and three battalion chiefs into that station on grove and baker. they have responded to the single alarms and greater alarms and great to have and division two mentioned that numerous times to me and thank you for getting that battalion back. >> excellent. that's good to have them back. it's been a long time so i am glad everyone is settling in nicely. chief
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gonzales could you tell us more about on page four the incident on bart on january 4? >> so what i understand is somehow we got pinned between the bart car and just the platform. i mean you're talking about much space so our rescue squad, engine seven, truck seven, battalion six charry crane, our medic units did a good job to stabilize them and do what they could and got the car apart to extricate him and unfortunately he succumbed that night but they did a good job
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on the scene. >> and the air bags have enough force to push the train to tilt it? >> it was enough to tilt it away from the platform to extricate the victim. >> very good. and for january 8 at 700 market you said the scaffolding was 12 stories tall? >> that was an approximation. i didn't have have it in front of me. we had a alarm there years ago and it was under remodel and ten, 12 stories, around there. >> and it collapsed due to -- >> high winds. >> okay. that's what i was thinking. thank you for that. and i am glad to see that under your prevention and education subject matter you have -- excuse me -- the materials that are going to be produced in multiple languages. i believe
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i asked about that at our last meeting and i see as of this date we have material in english, spanish and chinese and we currently have a multiple page public safety handout that has been sent to translation services to be printed in english, spanish, tagalog, chinese and russian. >> yes, ma'am. >> so that's fantastic. >> thank you. >> i am very happy to see that so how do people go about getting these materials if they would like to have them at sceern centers or people that speak these languages gather? >> we're going to do outreach to the communities, different battalions. battalion seven there is a huge russian and number one huge asian community. wherever they are we will be there. we had a fire safety in battalion one recently for instance and i am sure that
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material was there in the languages. all of the languages are there for everybody but we try to target it and like i said the outreach is aggressive. the pio is working hand and hand with prevention as well as the recruitment as well as nert as well as training and they're really getting out there so as far as a plan and getting we plan on doing it perpetually and not just this year or next year. it's a ongoing growing phenomenon. >> i would include the churches in the outreach for sure. >> churches? >> yes please. because there's a number of russian language churches that are outside of what be considered russian neighborhood and the same with the filipino community. okay. and then i see on page eight the transportation advisory staff committee. i am glad to know
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that things are moving along and that we're working more closely with mta regarding these obstructions that can sometimes go up and hamper the ability of members of the department -- >> i think it helps through the chief we met with director reiskin last month and made it clear it is collaborative and i think both departments are willing to work together. >> very good, and i wanted to just read this letter. i know that you were trying to be brief in your presentation, but on page 6 for my fellow commissioners this is under the heading the following or summary responses that we got on social media and this one is from jesse. "my wife was home alone with our nine month old of two flights of twisty stairs. my
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wife fell while walking baby. luckily our baby is fine however my wife broke three bones in her ankle. the firefighters immediately on the scene helped her calm down by insuring our baby was okay. one even washed a bottle to feed the baby. i believe they were from station 23. paramedics jenn shirr caaha and aaron thruston were incredible and got my wife down stairs and helped me over the course of an hour transporting her. my wife said she was sad to see them go and hung with them a bit longer! smiley face. as the recipient of my wife's hysterical phone call after the injury the gratitude and relief i felt knowing that the sffd was taking good care of her and our baby is too deep for words. thank you so much" so i wanted
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to share that with everyone. >> thank you commissioner. >> thank you. >> thank you commissioner covington. i was also going to recognize those kudos to our department and i think they're well deserved and just one example of many every day where we're helping san franciscans. a couple of questions for you. you can describe what the crush syndrome is when you have to employ the crush syndrome? >> well, before you start taking the victim out they have to be injected with potassium -- what is it called? >> [inaudible] [off mic] >> sodium bicarb so -- paramedics come on up. >> chief myers come on up. >> jeff myers ems chief. crush syndrome is generally occurs over time. individuals that are inpinched upon by
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heavy rocks like in u sar, urban search and rescue, structure like the bart train and compresses the tissues and organs and build up high amounts of acid and over time develop conditions which has secondary effects of deterioration of muscle and they go into conditions of different things. the big issue you want to maintain blood pressure so you give them fluid toss elevate and it creates a dam effect so if you suddenly reduce the pressure the blood pressure drops out and can be catastrophic and give medications for heart rhythms of the build up of the elect tro lights and most patients if treated properly do well. some
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have longer term problems with renal failure and liver failure et cetera. >> thank you chief. >> i think it's key to confirm you want to make sure to the extent you can you try and intervene because once you remove whatever is pinning them down then like you said the patient can really suffer -- >> very delicate situation. >> and quickly and may appear to be conscious and speaking but once you remove the item things can really deteriorate. >> and this person stuck between the bart train and the platform ultimately died. is that correct? >> later that night in the er, yes, but they got him there. >> thank you chief myers. >> sure. >> the cliff rescue -- there's been a number of rescues behind the cliff house or around there and the caves. is there proper signage out there to warn people? what's the reason we're
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having so many rescues there? >> there is signage out there and can always be improved. "people have died here. don't go there." >> who is responsible for the signage. >> national park service generally. >> perhaps we should just contact them and have a look at what signage out there and maybe we need more signage and it's happening too frequently and rescuing people off the cliffs. 32 needs to be enhancement of our warnings. >> >> we work together with them as far as the surf rescue and ocean beach they put more signage out there. i remember [inaudible] was out there battalion seven suggested put more markers and when you'reicallying from the cell phone and give directions to where we're going. sometimes there is delay finding the
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people but yeah i agree improved signage can always be attained. >> and early warning system that we could put out there. anyway the rescue dive two -- the two dive team you sent to alameda and oakland do they don't have dive teams? >> we're only one in the region and we get called often -- i wouldn't say often but get called to different areas. there is a golden area to get to the item and possibly save them. we put that into consideration before we send the units and we have a dive policy that we wrote up and get it streamlined and quickly as possible and give the victims the best chance of survival and they got there pretty quick. they have to make a decision whether they respond with the boat to the equipment or traffic conditions permit or
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close enough to the shore they might drive there in this instance they drove there off of the coast and they got there quick. >> are we the only jurisdiction that has a dive team? >> i would say 24/7 within the area i would say yes. >> so we really have a responsibility for the bay area and dive teams and responses to vehicles going into the water. >> i agree. >> look at sonoma county and the flooding and what not so if they have a vehicle go into the river up there, the russian river we would send a dive team there. >> russian river? i doubt we would go that far. >> i am just asking. >> and within that time of the golden hour we would never get there. >> okay. i would like to for
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dropped) and i would like to thank you for reducing the number of outstanding investigations. i wanted to ask you about the als. how many stations have advanced life support personnel of station there and what is our process for increasing the number of als at each fire
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station or at least one at each station? >> so the process of increasing our level three and the firefighters paramedics and if they're on the engine that is considered als they come from h3 level two, station 39 and they get into the -- 49 and they get into the academy and pass that they go out on probation. on the engine time for six months that engine will be als and do the truck time but their rank is h3 level three and utilize them as a resource. as far as how many engines we try to average -- we are averaging 32. on top of that we do have i would say up to 34 to 35 per day because we have probationary members on those staffing them as other als stations in other engines. >> i appreciate the efforts to
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het the h-23 position posted and i support vice president nakajo and my fellow commissioners' urgency getting the h-23 position posted and filled so i think we all share the need and i know that there's concerns out there but they have been addressed time and time again, and i believe it's time to move forward with that so i believe i speak for the entire commission. we feel that the h-23 program is super important. it's an important to give our emts a ladder of advancement and opportunity for administrative opportunities and ladder of advancement frankly and we support you as a commission to move forward with that posting. >> copy that. thank you. >> that's all my questions. excuse me. commissioner covington. >> thank you very much. yes, you do have my support concerning the h-23s.
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>> thank you. >> we've had so many meetings about this. it's really time to get the ball rolling, and i was remiss in my comments earlier about outreach to the churches. i forgot the sin gods and please good that as well. >> temp ems, synagogues you god it. >> thank you commissioner covington. vice rice. >> thank you very much mr. president. chief gonzales i really appreciate you did include an update on battalion five. we fought hard for that department wise totally. it was much needed but i think the justification of how we utilize battalion five and the incidents they report to is going to be real important from this point moving forward. i just really appreciate that and would appreciate any update or consistent reporting on the activities of battalion five. thank you chief.
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>> you got it which are. >> thank you vice president nakajo. and thank you for your report. executive secretary would you call the next item. >> item 6 resolution 2017-1, discussion and possible action regarding proposed resolution 2017-01 that the san francisco fire department -- that the san francisco fire department require all members uniformed and civilian take the biennial harassment prevention training. >> thank you madam secretary. is there any public comment on this resolution? seeing no public comment public comment is closed. commissioners what is your pleasure? >> [inaudible] [off mic] >> commissioner covington. >> okay. thank you very much mr. president. this i am really happy to see this resolution come forward. as you know
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before and during ms. but dln shon's presentation and make sure all members of the department go through the training. i think it's important for the culture of the department and it is part of our due diligence to make sure that this happens so i am very happy to see this resolution and i would like to move this item. >> thank you commissioner covington. do i have a second? >> second. >> and i would request that the commission secretary read it into the record. >> madam secretary please read the resolution into the record. >> resolution 2017-01 resolution recommending that the san francisco fire department require that all members uniformed and civilian take the biennial harassment prevention
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training whereas the san rephrase fire commission up holds the city's policies regarding discrimination and harassment and retaliation free work place and sexual harassment and the fire commission supports the biennial harassment prevention training for supervisors and compliance with the california state law ab1825 and whereas the san francisco fire commission believes it would be valuable for the fire department to administer the training module to iewl all department employees a regular basis and whereas the san francisco fire commission deems it important to the fire department to administer the city's harassment prevention training module to entry level uniform and new hire civilian employees during the probation period now be resolved that the fire commission of the city and county of san francisco hereby exercises its authority under the san francisco administrative code section 2 a .90 to rule as
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follows. one, that beginning with the 121st fire academy the fire department will administer the harassment training training train module during the probation period and two that the success completion of the harassment prevention training module is a requirement to pass probation for these same employees and three that the training module is part of the probationary handbook for entry level uniformed employees. four, the fire department supervisors will be required to take the city's 2017 harassment prevention training program in accordance with the city-wide compliance schedule for california law ab1825 and five, that the next scheduled department wide harassment prevention training for all fire department
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employees will be in 2019 to coincide with the city-wide compliance schedule for the california state law ab1825. >> thank you madam secretary. we have a motion on the floor to adopt this and support it. may i have --s. -- yes and i have a comment. >> commissioner hardeman. >> thank you mr. chair. i was talking to director of training, the chief -- i don't see him here -- after the last meeting how this would work for his scheduling at academy, and so i am glad to see this is not going to be something that has to be done during the academy because there's just no time but they have a whole year to go online during work hours when there might be down time and you could always check in and work half-hour on it and if you have
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a call and go on and it's doesn't have to be done at the academy and all of the stations understand that the new h2 has to do this and that's all and make it clear it's on record it has to be done while they're employed. they don't have to do it on their own time and not at the fire academy. that was just a clarification. like i said i don't see the chief here but just i know he would be happy to hear that. >> thank you commissioner hardeman. all in favor say aye. >> aye. >> the vote is unanimous madam secretary. >> item 7 communications emails from james corrigan dated january 22, 23, 24, 30, and february 1, 2017 and email from christopher wisniewski dated january 28, 2017. >> is there any public comment
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on the communications? seeing none public comment is closed. commissioners any questions or comments? commissioner hardeman. >> thank you. yeah, i just i arrived early. it took 26 minutes when i left the door and upstairs here, pretty fast ride here this morning on the streetcar so i was able to read -- i talked to everybody in line which was -- so i don't have to stay after but anyway the interesting part was asking them -- i asked where they went to high school, where they're from. where? and all bay area and local. it's interesting the lengths they went to get here. people's summer staying in tahoe and came down last night. one person from sacramento this morning and stockton and from the north bay
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and a real mix of local people all with tremendous talents and also eager and educated and sorry to see we had to take some out of the room this morning because there is no place to sit which is sort of the usual so we do appreciate you attending, your interest and hopefully many of you are in the next class so thank you for participating. thanks for coming down on a brutal morning. didn't slow them down. you can tell they have the gumption and storm and rain doesn't bother them. >> thank you commissioner hardeman. i certainly share the sentiments and all of the commissioners share the sentiments. any further questions, comments? comments? ? madam secretary. >> they were moved to an over flow room in room 400.
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>> we commend them for sitting in room 400. >> >> they're in room 400 with a big screen tv. >> [inaudible] [off mic] [laughter] >> hopefully they have some popcorn. >> item 8 agenda for next fire commission meeting on february 22, 2017. >> vice president nakajo. >> thank you mr. president. madam secretary could i have a clarification on what is the agenda for february 22 at this time? >> we have an ems six update. >> thank you. >> [inaudible] okay. that's all at the moment. >> thank you madam secretary. at the discretion of the chief at some point i would like to have a request from the emergency communication unit if we can, an update as to what is occurring at that unit just to share of information chief hayes-white at your discretion of date and coordination with
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ems, not ems, the emergency communication level, excuse me. thank you. >> thank you. chief hayes-white. >> thank you president cleaveland. i have not had a chance to speak to chief gonzales or dr. yay regarding the presentation. i know that the doctor is planning on presenting on the 22nd. i got something yesterday that was a request by one of the members of ems6 rescue captain simon pang. i know he wanted to be here for the presentation and he's unable to be here so i could go either way. dr. yay did you want to weigh in on that? >> [inaudible] [off mic] i am prepared to -- [inaudible] however it would be -- [inaudible] [off mic]
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>> march 22nd. >> and i defer to the commission. i know captain pang as well as captain bassett they're integral parts of the team and it just sort of reinforces their passion about this program that he's asked that you would consider deferring until he's able to be here so a.m. or p.m. meeting i don't think would make a difference so at your call. >> i think speaking for the commission i think we will defer it until we have everyone involved in the program that can speak to it so we will move it to march to the date best suited for the biggest attendance from the ems6 program. >> thank you president cleaveland. i appreciate it. >> absolutely. commissioner hardeman. >> yes thank you mr. chair. i already mentioned this about the port fire marshal at the call of staff when the chief feels
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appropriate and do a report on the new fire boat and the station 35 how that's going, all of that at once so thank you chief. >> thank you commissioner hardeman. commissioner covington. >> i had no comment. i am sorry. >> your name was up. it's rare you don't have a comment. >> a ghost in the machine. >> okay. well thank you very much. madam secretary next item. >> item 9 adjournment. >> so moved. >> do we have a second? >> [inaudible] [off mic] >> thank you. any public comment? >> who seconded? >> commissioner hardeman. thank you. this meeting is adjourned. [gavel] -
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>> san francisco is known worldwide for its atmospheric waterfront where spectacular views are by piers and sight and sounds are xhanl changing we come to the here for exercise relax ball games entertainment, recreation market, exhilaration a wide
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variety of contributions easily enjoyed look up the bay the waterfront is boosting for activities boosting over 25 visitors every year the port of san francisco manages 7 may have million dollars of waterfront from hyde street and fisherman's wharf to the cargo terminals and name shoreline the architecture like pier 70 and the ferry building is here for the embarcadero and a national treasure the port also supports 10 different maritime industries alongside with the recreational attractions making san francisco one of the most viable working waterfronts in the world but did you think that our
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waterfront faces serious challenges if earthquake to damage the seawall and the embarcadero roadway rising seawalls will cause flooding at high tides and major repairs to a safe many of the piers the port is at a critically turnl point time to plan for the future of san francisco's waterfront this year the port is updating it's marts plan the plan working group to invite a wide variety of poichdz from the city and bayview and other advisory teams to share their expertise if intense and maritime operations the waterfront land use plan has guided the use and development of the lanes for the last 20 years
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major physical changes take place along the waterfront and now is the time to update the waterfront plan to continue improvements that will keep our waterfront vibrate, public and resilient the biggest challenges facing the waterfront are out the site an aging seawall along the embarcadero roadway and seawalls that will rise by 21 hundred to provide and productivity of tides seawall is built over weak soils and mud the next earthquake will cause it to settle several feet without the urgent repairs that will damage the promenade and other things we've been fortunate over the last hundred years less than one foot of seawall over the next hundred years scientists say we'll have 6 feet of seawall
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rise imagine the pier 30/32 will be floated, the embarcadero will be flooded our transportation system is fog to be heavy impacts unfortunately, the port didn't have the financial resources to repair all the deteriorating piers let alone the adaptations for sea level rise. >> it is clear that the port can't pay for the seawall reinforcement or deal with the sea level rise on its own needs to raise money to take care of the properties at take care of the maintenance on the properties no way absent anti funding the issues of sea level rise or the schematic conditions of seawall can be development. >> as studies talk about the seawall challenges the working group is look at the issues
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please come share our ideas about recreation, pier activities, shoreline habitat, historic preservation and transportation issues and viral protection. >> we know this planning process will not have one question and one answer we need the diversity of the opinions how people feel about san francisco waterfront and want to hear all the opinions. >> the challenges call for big decisions now is the time to explore now and creative ideas to protect and preserve san francisco waterfront. >> now is the time to get involved to help to shape the future of our waterfront. >> we need the debate please come forward and engage in the process. >> this is your waterfront and this is your opportunity to get involved be part of solution help san francisco create the waterfront we want for the
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future. >> this is really to dream big and i think about what our waterfront looked like for all san franciscans today and generations to come. >> get involved with the planning process that will set the fraction for what is coming at the port. >> find for in upgrading dates on the ports website. >> (ship blowing horn in distances)
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>>supervisor jane kim: good morning and welcome to the february 2, 2017, meeting of government did it and oversight committee. we have >>supervisor aaron peskin: and >>supervisor london breed:. i would like to recognize leo
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daisies and from sfgovtv.org. they provide transcripts to the public. madam chair, would you like to make any announcements? >> yes, please silence all cell phones and any copies of your speech should be submitted to the clerk. thank you, madam clerk. i have acknowledged all in today's meeting. please call item 1. >>clerk: hearing on existing building standards in seismic safety zones, including infill and waterfront neighborhoods; and requesting the department of building inspection to report . >>supervisor jane kim: thank you, this item is to continue to discuss the structural safety concerns at 301 mission
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street. will for clarification purposes, today's hearing is related to file no. 161299, a motion passed by the board to issue a subpoena for professor jack moiler. a structural engineer who designed the 301 mission as a third party in 2006. i understand that madam clerk. supervisor peskin would you like to make a comment. >>supervisor aaron peskin: this is a series of hearings not only with regard to 301 but the issue of large buildings and safety standards particularly in the downtown core where we have a lot of
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party that are bay lands. i am very pleased that professor maile has joined us today and we have a number of questions that we are seeking to ask him in his role as one of the peer reviewers as well as the peer reviewer of a similar project that was not built at 80 natoma which was the issue of this body. after the oath is administered i have questions that are meant to be friendly. we are trying to figure out the bottom of this as to who knew what and when. >> thank you. we'll bring up the clerk of the board to administer the oath. >> mr. maile, please stand at
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the podium. prepare by raising your right hand and say i do when i finish the oath. >> you do solemnly state that the testimony you are giving here in the city of san francisco shall be the truth and nothing but the truth. >> i do. >> >>supervisor jane kim: >>supervisor aaron peskin: let me say that professor maile is in the highest regard and i know director tom speaks highly of mr. maile and have heard from others in the industry that mr. maile is highly regarded. i want to start with an introduction. if you would give us a little bit of your background as to
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your qualifications and educational experience, awards, just a a little bit of your bona fided. >> sure. my name is jack maile. my main position as a structural engineer at university in california. i am interested not only in teaching and research but development issues and divine guidance and as a consequence of that have been involved in developing some design guidelines that are affirm widely used in tall buildings today. i served on several panels related to tall buildings in this city as well as other cities. i'm
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currently the chair of the american constitute building code committee which involves the national standards for buildings of all reinforced concrete. as to awards, i don't want to go on too long about things. but locally i have been involved with the structural engineers association of northern california where i was designated some years ago as an honorary member. i'm also affiliated of course with the statewide structural engineer's association where i was elected to category of fellow. and i'm a member of the national academy of engineering. >> and a license state structural engineer? >> i'm a licensed state civil engineer. the structural engineer license is one that requires
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and additional examination and qualifying years of structural engineering practice under a registered and structural engineer. because i'm a professor at uc berkeley, i don't qualify for that examination. i never took that exam. >> thank you for your background. as you indicated you have been a peer reviewer in san francisco and other locals. and at a certain point prior to the 301 mission project which of course is the subject of great interest and concern in so far as it is undeniably not performing as to the specifications that were setforth, but prior to the 301 mission street project, you were a peer reviewer on the 80 natoma project. i wanted to as start with a little bit of background
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for our edification. how does a peer review work, where is the client, where does the product go and what is your responsibility. if you want to give us your gala of the peer review. >> because peer review has developed over the years and formalized in ab 282 and ab 083 in the city and county of san francisco. >> our administrative bull tins from the department of buildings inspection. >> going back to 80 natoma and the mission project that was pretty early in the development of formal base design for tall buildings. when i say performance based
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design, what i mean is that the design involves the structural system or a kind of material or a new configuration of the materials that is different from what is prescribed in the building code. so the design in such a case is done by a more advanced structural analysis in foundation analysis sometimes for the building. and the we can go back to the example of this building which is today which is one of the earliest in san francisco which the design or the redesign and retrofit of this building is seismic isolate ors. those kind of developments were covered by the building code but not in depth that enabled the
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building department to conduct a review without outside expertise. the same applies to the powers going back to 80 natoma not including 301 mission, but many other high rise towers are being performed by this design procedure in which the analysis are outside the prescribed methods of the building code. the city typically will bring in a seismic peer review panel. the panel usually has a scope of work that is restricted to seismic design because that's where the main difference with the prescriptive code revisions lies. it at times will also include design for wind because of the similarities between wind force and seismic force in terms